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	<description>Thoughts, life and links from a pastor of a young Ontario church.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Tribes, Leadership and Changing the World by Nick</title>
		<link>http://nojremmil.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/tribes-leadership-and-changing-the-world/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy watching TED clips as well. Thanks for posting this. It made me think of my students, this little tribe we call our school, and all the tribes that they are part of that I have no connection to. Even though they are great students, they are in the 2 or 3 range. I think there may be even one or two 1s that I definitely need to reach out to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy watching TED clips as well. Thanks for posting this. It made me think of my students, this little tribe we call our school, and all the tribes that they are part of that I have no connection to. Even though they are great students, they are in the 2 or 3 range. I think there may be even one or two 1s that I definitely need to reach out to.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Being Right Is No Excuse by nojremmil</title>
		<link>http://nojremmil.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/being-right-is-no-excuse/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>nojremmil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A personal comment to follow up this post...

This has been, and continues to be, one of the most difficult realities for me to learn in my life. While in many ways I am improving in this regard, an honest conversation with my wife will reveal that I too often spend too much energy attempting to prove the accuracy of my case failing to act with grace and love. If you resonate with the struggle identified in this post...we&#039;re in this together!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A personal comment to follow up this post&#8230;</p>
<p>This has been, and continues to be, one of the most difficult realities for me to learn in my life. While in many ways I am improving in this regard, an honest conversation with my wife will reveal that I too often spend too much energy attempting to prove the accuracy of my case failing to act with grace and love. If you resonate with the struggle identified in this post&#8230;we&#8217;re in this together!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Memories Served On Toast by Anne</title>
		<link>http://nojremmil.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/memories-served-on-toast/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I was transported back to their place instantly!  As soon as you said toast and Cheez Whiz, I was in their living room, watching baseball, eating peanuts out of the bowl on their end table and that was after having gone across the street with Grandma to Baskin Robbins.  Occasionally, Elizabeth and I would be there together our attempts at being quiet were always punctuated by &quot;Girls, that&#039;s enough now&quot;!  Thanks, Jon!  There&#039;s not a day that goes by that I don&#039;t think about Grandma and Grandpa.  I miss them terribly but have wonderful memories of our lives with them, all of which put a smile on my face, some of which are as simple as toast and Cheez Whiz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I was transported back to their place instantly!  As soon as you said toast and Cheez Whiz, I was in their living room, watching baseball, eating peanuts out of the bowl on their end table and that was after having gone across the street with Grandma to Baskin Robbins.  Occasionally, Elizabeth and I would be there together our attempts at being quiet were always punctuated by &#8220;Girls, that&#8217;s enough now&#8221;!  Thanks, Jon!  There&#8217;s not a day that goes by that I don&#8217;t think about Grandma and Grandpa.  I miss them terribly but have wonderful memories of our lives with them, all of which put a smile on my face, some of which are as simple as toast and Cheez Whiz.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Memories Served On Toast by Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://nojremmil.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/memories-served-on-toast/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As soon as I saw the title, I knew what you were talking about.  Cheez Whiz on toast makes me think of them, too.  It just goes to show you that big, orchestrated &quot;let&#039;s make a new family tradition&quot; moments aren&#039;t usually the ones that make lasting impressions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As soon as I saw the title, I knew what you were talking about.  Cheez Whiz on toast makes me think of them, too.  It just goes to show you that big, orchestrated &#8220;let&#8217;s make a new family tradition&#8221; moments aren&#8217;t usually the ones that make lasting impressions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Effective Blogging by Rachel</title>
		<link>http://nojremmil.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/effective-blogging/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not offering ANY advice, &#039;cause I&#039;m not a fisher!  However, we&#039;re voting for you!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Life Isn&#8217;t Easy by Rachel</title>
		<link>http://nojremmil.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/life-isnt-easy/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll be praying for you, Jon, and for the meeting on Thursday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll be praying for you, Jon, and for the meeting on Thursday.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Effective Blogging by Jon Villalobos</title>
		<link>http://nojremmil.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/effective-blogging/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Villalobos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jon,

First I assume your going to be fishing from shore not from a boat or wading in the river. Try to find a spot where the water is a good depth (2-5 feet) at the bank and where the water isn&#039;t flowing too fast, then look for any fallen trees or or large rocks or anything fish might think they can hide around.  Stand down stream and cast upstream if you can.

If your using lures I recommend starting with a simple jig head (1/4oz) and plastic grub of some sort in the 3&quot;-4&quot; range just cast it out toward (or past if you can) the spots you think fish might be in and reel it in at a moderate pace.  I find this to be more exciting that the sit and wait approach of bait fishing but you do limit the types of fish you will catch to predatory ones (bass, pike, walleye and panfish)

If your using worms or other &quot;real&quot; bait put your bait onto a hook move up stream cast out into the water and let your line drift out until you think it is near the spot where the fish are then make the line tight and wait. You can catch types of fish such as carp, suckers, and catfish that won&#039;t go for lures very often and you can still catch bass and panfish easily.

Anyways just some thoughts off the top of my head if you want some more specific advice tell me what the river is like at places you can get to it. Good Luck and I enjoy reading your Blog every so often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jon,</p>
<p>First I assume your going to be fishing from shore not from a boat or wading in the river. Try to find a spot where the water is a good depth (2-5 feet) at the bank and where the water isn&#8217;t flowing too fast, then look for any fallen trees or or large rocks or anything fish might think they can hide around.  Stand down stream and cast upstream if you can.</p>
<p>If your using lures I recommend starting with a simple jig head (1/4oz) and plastic grub of some sort in the 3&#8243;-4&#8243; range just cast it out toward (or past if you can) the spots you think fish might be in and reel it in at a moderate pace.  I find this to be more exciting that the sit and wait approach of bait fishing but you do limit the types of fish you will catch to predatory ones (bass, pike, walleye and panfish)</p>
<p>If your using worms or other &#8220;real&#8221; bait put your bait onto a hook move up stream cast out into the water and let your line drift out until you think it is near the spot where the fish are then make the line tight and wait. You can catch types of fish such as carp, suckers, and catfish that won&#8217;t go for lures very often and you can still catch bass and panfish easily.</p>
<p>Anyways just some thoughts off the top of my head if you want some more specific advice tell me what the river is like at places you can get to it. Good Luck and I enjoy reading your Blog every so often.</p>
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		<title>Comment on nakedpastor Cartoon by Ryan M.</title>
		<link>http://nojremmil.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/nakedpastor-cartoon/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, that&#039;s pure. One of the best things I&#039;ve seen on the Internet in a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, that&#8217;s pure. One of the best things I&#8217;ve seen on the Internet in a long time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on God or Money &amp; The Communal Collection by Ryan Miller</title>
		<link>http://nojremmil.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/god-or-money-the-communal-collection/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

The question it seems you are asking is: Is it right for a body of believers to expend time, energy and money building an organization with facilities, programs and events (what most churches are today)?

I&#039;d say, it depends. What needs to be done? Can it only be done with a building? Or a complex organized children&#039;s program? Does God care more about whether we spend money on a building or whether we&#039;re following him?

1 Samuel 16:7 says that God looks at our hearts, not our outward appearance. If we are seeking to serve God with all our heart, soul and mind, is building a facility just plain not an option? Ever? Can anyone say that?

In terms of &quot;prescription&quot; vs &quot;description&quot;, I would lean towards &quot;description&quot; when discussing what impact the early church model has on today&#039;s church. I think that what is described provides great insight into how to deal with certain situations, but do not see it as God&#039;s prescription for how all churches should function. 

Some desire a pure organic experience when it comes to &quot;how church is done&quot;, attempting to avoid the bureaucracy, politics and overhead that come with an organization. The counter to that is that the early church started developing a structural basis for leadership and management of &quot;services&quot; (see Acts 6). I&#039;m not sure there is any reason to consider that a further development of this to meet the needs of the group is wrong and to be avoided.

Bottom line, for the group of believers that you are part of, you (collectively) need to determine, with the direction of God&#039;s revelation (Bible, Holy Spirit, experience), what needs to be done to meet the needs of your group. I don&#039;t know of any indicators, scriptural or otherwise, that indicate to the contrary.

&#124; provide for the needs of the poor 
&#124; (both in and out of the church)

Do you have any verses that show the early church helping the poor outside of the church? This is not an argument against doing it, just curious. I&#039;m just trying to build a case for &quot;description&quot; vs &quot;prescription&quot;. Prescription would say, if the early church did it, we should too, and if they didn&#039;t, we shouldn&#039;t. I don&#039;t buy that approach.

Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>The question it seems you are asking is: Is it right for a body of believers to expend time, energy and money building an organization with facilities, programs and events (what most churches are today)?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say, it depends. What needs to be done? Can it only be done with a building? Or a complex organized children&#8217;s program? Does God care more about whether we spend money on a building or whether we&#8217;re following him?</p>
<p>1 Samuel 16:7 says that God looks at our hearts, not our outward appearance. If we are seeking to serve God with all our heart, soul and mind, is building a facility just plain not an option? Ever? Can anyone say that?</p>
<p>In terms of &#8220;prescription&#8221; vs &#8220;description&#8221;, I would lean towards &#8220;description&#8221; when discussing what impact the early church model has on today&#8217;s church. I think that what is described provides great insight into how to deal with certain situations, but do not see it as God&#8217;s prescription for how all churches should function. </p>
<p>Some desire a pure organic experience when it comes to &#8220;how church is done&#8221;, attempting to avoid the bureaucracy, politics and overhead that come with an organization. The counter to that is that the early church started developing a structural basis for leadership and management of &#8220;services&#8221; (see Acts 6). I&#8217;m not sure there is any reason to consider that a further development of this to meet the needs of the group is wrong and to be avoided.</p>
<p>Bottom line, for the group of believers that you are part of, you (collectively) need to determine, with the direction of God&#8217;s revelation (Bible, Holy Spirit, experience), what needs to be done to meet the needs of your group. I don&#8217;t know of any indicators, scriptural or otherwise, that indicate to the contrary.</p>
<p>| provide for the needs of the poor<br />
| (both in and out of the church)</p>
<p>Do you have any verses that show the early church helping the poor outside of the church? This is not an argument against doing it, just curious. I&#8217;m just trying to build a case for &#8220;description&#8221; vs &#8220;prescription&#8221;. Prescription would say, if the early church did it, we should too, and if they didn&#8217;t, we shouldn&#8217;t. I don&#8217;t buy that approach.</p>
<p>Ryan</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Quiverful? by smallrain</title>
		<link>http://nojremmil.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/a-quiverful/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>smallrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The distinction with surgical intervention of any kind vs. sterilization is that with sterilization you are treating fertility as a disease or disability.  You are &quot;correcting&quot; something which is actually a gift and a sign of health.  Same with altering a woman&#039;s chemistry to render her infertile.  Yes, medicines are used to improve our health, to correct an imbalance, to heal an illness - using our knowledge in a good way.  I struggled with this because it just never felt right somehow to use the various artificial means of birth control:  a barrier where should be none; a chemical change for the woman; a device placed in her body - could this be in God&#039;s will?  NFP was truly the answer I was looking for - how did God make our bodies work?  And the fact that it&#039;s not foolproof is actually a comfort to me - I ALWAYS want to allow for &quot;not my will, but Thine be done&quot;- hence the &quot;Micahs&quot; of the world!  For those for whom pregnancy would be a serious health threat there are ways to use NFP that are very unlikely to result in a pregnancy.  How can we oppose Planned Parenthood and yet subscribe to a large part of their philosophy in thinking the world will be a better place if we have absolute control over our fertility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The distinction with surgical intervention of any kind vs. sterilization is that with sterilization you are treating fertility as a disease or disability.  You are &#8220;correcting&#8221; something which is actually a gift and a sign of health.  Same with altering a woman&#8217;s chemistry to render her infertile.  Yes, medicines are used to improve our health, to correct an imbalance, to heal an illness &#8211; using our knowledge in a good way.  I struggled with this because it just never felt right somehow to use the various artificial means of birth control:  a barrier where should be none; a chemical change for the woman; a device placed in her body &#8211; could this be in God&#8217;s will?  NFP was truly the answer I was looking for &#8211; how did God make our bodies work?  And the fact that it&#8217;s not foolproof is actually a comfort to me &#8211; I ALWAYS want to allow for &#8220;not my will, but Thine be done&#8221;- hence the &#8220;Micahs&#8221; of the world!  For those for whom pregnancy would be a serious health threat there are ways to use NFP that are very unlikely to result in a pregnancy.  How can we oppose Planned Parenthood and yet subscribe to a large part of their philosophy in thinking the world will be a better place if we have absolute control over our fertility?</p>
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